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		<title>By: led sign</title>
		<link>http://blog.vamsoft.com/2008/12/29/self-sending-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-44844</link>
		<dc:creator>led sign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks the useful knowledge article, i study handrul you website .Typically, websites with “Send this page to…” functionality tend to be broken by this, because they are not authorized to send in your name. When possible, reconfigure these solutions or whitelist them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks the useful knowledge article, i study handrul you website .Typically, websites with “Send this page to…” functionality tend to be broken by this, because they are not authorized to send in your name. When possible, reconfigure these solutions or whitelist them.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
		<link>http://blog.vamsoft.com/2008/12/29/self-sending-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-43780</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got study a handful of the articles on your web site now, and I like your style of writing a blog. I included it to my favorites site record and looking at back soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://blog.vamsoft.com/2008/12/29/self-sending-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-9026</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found that whilst my spf records work fine 90% of the time, spammers are starting to send me messages using my address as the to and from with the reply to address being different, the spf record is checking the reply to address domain, and this is not spf protected.

any ideas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found that whilst my spf records work fine 90% of the time, spammers are starting to send me messages using my address as the to and from with the reply to address being different, the spf record is checking the reply to address domain, and this is not spf protected.</p>
<p>any ideas?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.vamsoft.com/2008/12/29/self-sending-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-8875</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 09:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matevz, the agent is actually already published. Please see http://www.vamsoft.com/r?selfspam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matevz, the agent is actually already published. Please see <a href="http://www.vamsoft.com/r?selfspam" rel="nofollow">http://www.vamsoft.com/r?selfspam</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matevz</title>
		<link>http://blog.vamsoft.com/2008/12/29/self-sending-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-8842</link>
		<dc:creator>Matevz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ill wait for external agent. Got a complicated design also. :)

thx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ill wait for external agent. Got a complicated design also. :)</p>
<p>thx</p>
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		<title>By: Vamsoft Insider &#187; Self-Sending Spam 2.</title>
		<link>http://blog.vamsoft.com/2008/12/29/self-sending-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-8721</link>
		<dc:creator>Vamsoft Insider &#187; Self-Sending Spam 2.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My previous article outlined two solutions against the recent spam breakout: blacklisting your own domain and using SPF. This article will introduce a third one: an External Agent for ORF. If you are not interested in the mechanics of a simple External Agent, here is a direct link for the package download (then follow instructions of readme.txt). If you stay with me, I will show you how you can extend ORF by scripts. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My previous article outlined two solutions against the recent spam breakout: blacklisting your own domain and using SPF. This article will introduce a third one: an External Agent for ORF. If you are not interested in the mechanics of a simple External Agent, here is a direct link for the package download (then follow instructions of readme.txt). If you stay with me, I will show you how you can extend ORF by scripts. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blog.vamsoft.com/2008/12/29/self-sending-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-8663</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Prayag,

Thanks for the explanation, now it makes sense. Indeed, such External Agent is quite easy to be written, basically it&#039;s the following in pseudocode:

if CommandLineParameter(1) case- insensitively-equals CommandLineParameter(2) then
  SetExitCode(1)
else
  SetExitCode(0)

We plan to release such agent, however due to the upcoming holidays the ETA is uncertain.

Otherwise, such email setup is quite unfortunate. When possible, ORF should be deployed in the perimeter MX servers. This gives both best performance, easy configuration, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prayag,</p>
<p>Thanks for the explanation, now it makes sense. Indeed, such External Agent is quite easy to be written, basically it&#8217;s the following in pseudocode:</p>
<p>if CommandLineParameter(1) case- insensitively-equals CommandLineParameter(2) then<br />
  SetExitCode(1)<br />
else<br />
  SetExitCode(0)</p>
<p>We plan to release such agent, however due to the upcoming holidays the ETA is uncertain.</p>
<p>Otherwise, such email setup is quite unfortunate. When possible, ORF should be deployed in the perimeter MX servers. This gives both best performance, easy configuration, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 12:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benjamin,

If SPF did not work in the first place, that may be because:

- Your policy ends with SPF SoftFail and ORF is not configured to blacklist on SoftFail (I believe it does not blacklist on default, but I currently has no access to ORF source code)

- Some test whitelisted those emails. This can be checked in the logs.

- DNS issues, e.g. your SPF policy is not visible/different in the internal DNS. Differences between the internal and public DNS are suprisingly common.

- Other reasons (SPF test not enabled, enabled but at wrong filtering point, Intermediate Host List issues, etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benjamin,</p>
<p>If SPF did not work in the first place, that may be because:</p>
<p>- Your policy ends with SPF SoftFail and ORF is not configured to blacklist on SoftFail (I believe it does not blacklist on default, but I currently has no access to ORF source code)</p>
<p>- Some test whitelisted those emails. This can be checked in the logs.</p>
<p>- DNS issues, e.g. your SPF policy is not visible/different in the internal DNS. Differences between the internal and public DNS are suprisingly common.</p>
<p>- Other reasons (SPF test not enabled, enabled but at wrong filtering point, Intermediate Host List issues, etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Prayag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prayag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg,

As I mentioned earlier our SPF record is relatively broken (does not contain hard fail) as we have more than 50+ outgoing gateways and not able to include all of them in SPF record for different reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg,</p>
<p>As I mentioned earlier our SPF record is relatively broken (does not contain hard fail) as we have more than 50+ outgoing gateways and not able to include all of them in SPF record for different reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregg Hill</title>
		<link>http://blog.vamsoft.com/2008/12/29/self-sending-spam/comment-page-1/#comment-8656</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregg Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you use an SPF record, it must have a &quot;hard-fail&quot; mechanism at the end, AND you must enable the SPF test at &quot;Both&quot; for the test point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you use an SPF record, it must have a &#8220;hard-fail&#8221; mechanism at the end, AND you must enable the SPF test at &#8220;Both&#8221; for the test point.</p>
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